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on looker
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Legless
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| GuitarHero wrote: | | on looker wrote: | | Rugby Girl wrote: | | This website is definitely showing the game live for the cost of £5.10 if people are wanting to shell out for the game www.mediazone.com/rugby |
Not in the UK  |
I'm not 100% sure as the website does originally say:
| Quote: | June Tours matches are NOT available in the
UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Greece and Cyprus. |
But then also says:
| Quote: | | Note: Argentina vs Scotland - June 07, 2008 is available worldwide, LIVE and On Demand, excluding South Africa, Spain Portugal, Middle East, Singapore, Malaysia & Latin America. |
So I really have no idea if it IS available or not, it's too wooly to say for sure.. Might wait until afterwards and then possibly download the match if we win  |
FOSRS contacted the mediazone people and they say the game is def available.  I lifted this reply to FOSRS from mediazone from the FOSRS site.
"Greetings,
Thank you for contacting MediaZone Support!
I am very sorry for any confusion I have made. You will be able to view the Argentina vs Scotland in the UK.
For further assistance please consider a one on one session with a support agent via our Live Chat Support Queue. Live Chat is accessible by clicking on the
"Customer Service" link on the top of the page followed by the "click here" link on the Customer Service Page. Our support team is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
If you reply to this email, please include the entire email history so that we can easily view our past discussions of your support issue.
Regards,
MediaZone Support support@mediazone.com " |
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GuitarHero
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| Quote: | Stand-off issue raised again for game Scotland have to win
Hodge hedges bets as Godman challenges Parks for No10 jersey with World Cup seeding at stake for tourists
« Previous « PreviousNext » Next »View GalleryPublished Date: 10 June 2008
By DAVID FERGUSON
in Buenos Aires
THERE is a weary reluctance in returning to the stand-off issue in Scottish rugby, but if Scotland are to give themselves a chance of a good World Cup draw in their final Test for five months it is impossible to escape the feeling that the selection at No10 for Saturday's second match in Argentina holds the key.
Fittingly, perhaps, former Scotland stand-off Duncan Hodge was put up by the tour management for interview yesterday with the squad back in Buenos Aires and fully debriefed from their 21-15 first Test defeat in Rosario. Hodge's first tour with SADVERTISEMENTcotland was to Argentina in 1994, as an 19-year-old, where he played in midweek games, but was an unused replacement in the Test matches.
Now, he is the youngest member of the coaching staff and, having watched the team lose by one point and then two in the two Buenos Aires Tests 14 years ago, he found himself in a similar position last weekend. He brings insight, therefore, into the difficulties in beating the Pumas, and also the influence of a stand-off.
The team for the second Test will not be announced until Thursday, though the coaches have deliberated over it already. Hodge would not be drawn on nor endorse any changes, but when asked about the option of replacing Dan Parks with Phil Godman, and Godman's abilities, he said he was confident his former Edinburgh protege could step up if asked, despite more than a year out of the Test picture.
"Phil last played in the Six Nations last year and this season he has come on," he said. "Certain things have helped that – goal-kicking, extra pressure, and him being a year older probably.
"Phil has a great range of kicks. Certainly from the games I've seen with Edinburgh this season, guys around him like Nick De Luca and Ben Cairns are playing well, so he's obviously good at bringing guys into the game, but then again it's very different at international level and he'll play with Graeme Morrison, who he's not used to in the same way as the other two.
"A Scotland environment is different with all these other people, not like a club environment where you're quite comfortable. I keep saying to the guys that there is a huge difference between playing pro rugby and international rugby. It's very hard to explain, but there is just is a massive difference in terms of time, pressure, the physical side of it, everything."
There was perhaps an inadvertent slip there, with the suggestion that Godman and Morrison may pair up, but while that would show faith in Morrison, this weekend is simply about winning and that would miss the chance to team up the Edinburgh quartet of Blair, Godman, De Luca and Cairns in a fashion that served Wales well with their Ospreys combinations in the Six Nations.
There is no hiding the pressure around this Test match. The defeat at the weekend has not altered Scotland's tenth place in the IRB rankings, but Fiji's win over Samoa in the Pacific Nations Cup has cut the Scots further adrift from ninth. Scotland must win in Buenos Aires to have any realistic chance of catching Ireland in eighth spot before the end of the year and securing a place in the pot of second seeds for the 2011 World Cup draw. Being a third seed would make a quarter-final place more difficult to achieve than ever.
Hodge acknowledged that a more clinical approach was necessary from Scotland this week and admitted that changing the stand-off's approach was not something achievable in the space of a week.
"The bottom line is still that we're not scoring as many tries as we would like and I don't think anyone would deny that," he said. "We're still getting chances to win games, still kicking penalties and so are in the right areas of the pitch, but if we could average a try-and-a-half-a-game, on top of 15 points at goal then we'd be winning a lot of games.
"(Stand-off] is like any position. People have their habits and their strengths and you can tinker with them, but it takes years and years to completely change someone. If you're talking about the timespan of a tour; if you were to say to Phil we want you to change X, or to Parksy 'change Y', well these things take a long time and they are also dependant on a whole load of things around them."
Argentina yesterday drafted five players into their squad – Test wings Federico Martin Aramburu (Perpignan), Horacio Agulla (Dax) and Lucas Borges (Treviso), experienced full-back Federico Serra from local club San Isidro and Alvario Garindo from Beziers – which is likely to strengthen their back division. Hodge added: "(Argentina] didn't change much last week and will come at us with a similar approach this week, but I've no doubts they will improve – we have to improve by a greater margin." |
From the hootsman this morning |
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Oldsalt
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I find this article very strange. "Parksy" managed to change the habits of a lifetime in the last 5 matches for Glasgow. So why has he reverted to type on tour?
Also I don't believe that any professional player should be comfortable at his club. I'm sorry but I thought Andy Robinson and Rob Moffat have challenged the squad to improve this year and they have done so tremendously :
If this article is a reflection of the attitude of the Scottish and SRU management team then I think it goes a long way to explaining why the big team are not performing.
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miss-tink
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Oldsalt wrote: | I find this article very strange. "Parksy" managed to change the habits of a lifetime in the last 5 matches for Glasgow. So why has he reverted to type on tour?
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I smell a Haddock |
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superl99
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | "Parksy" managed to change the habits of a lifetime in the last 5 matches for Glasgow. So why has he reverted to type on tour? |
Because at Glasgow he's the big man in the tiny pond, and the Magner's League is not nearly as scary as international level rugby. Parks has always been a coward in the Scotland jersey, and that is just continuing.
It could also be that (like some other Glaswegian teams that might be mentioned *cough*), he has greater loyalty to his club than 'his' country.  |
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Baggage
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| superl99 wrote: | | Quote: | | "Parksy" managed to change the habits of a lifetime in the last 5 matches for Glasgow. So why has he reverted to type on tour? |
Because at Glasgow he's the big man in the tiny pond, and the Magner's League is not nearly as scary as international level rugby. Parks has always been a coward in the Scotland jersey, and that is just continuing.
It could also be that (like some other Glaswegian teams that might be mentioned *cough*), he has greater loyalty to his club than 'his' country. |
Never liked the use of the "C" word particularly when its coming from an anonymous username. |
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Martin Bell
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| Baggage wrote: |
Never liked the use of the "C" word particularly when its coming from an anonymous username. |
Well said.
If I read the reports right, it seems that one significant factor in the loss was that the referee implemented one of the more sensible ELVs, which is to apply the existing laws on the breakdown as they were originally intended to be applied. The Argentinians managed to overcome their amazement at this revolutionary step rather better than we did. You could be Barry John, Duncan "Hodgey" Hodge or Michael Lynagh, but if your pack deliver poor ball, you'll still be struggling to make something happen. If there are brickbats to be handed out, our back row surely deserve some too.
Like The Nudger, I now accept that - like The Chainsaw, in fact - Dan is one of these guys who can really boss a game at provincial level, but not (often? consistently? at all?) when the pace is upped at international level. He's had some decent outings when we've wanted to play a tight game. But to my untutored eye, Mossy has created things every time he's been at 10. He must surely take over the job from now on.
If a guy is doing his best - as I have no reason to doubt Dan has - attacks on his character are not very attractive reading. |
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kev
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| Martin Bell wrote: | You could be Barry John, Duncan "Hodgey" Hodge or Michael Lynagh, but if your pack deliver poor ball, you'll still be struggling to make something happen. If there are brickbats to be handed out, our back row surely deserve some too.
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This was definitely a factor, just as it was all thoughout the 6 nations. And certainly not helped by Alan Lewis letting the Argentinians creep round the side of rucks to prevent Blair getting the pass away, on at least 4 occasions.
According to yesterday's Times, AR will be having a word with Alain Rolland (the referee this Saturday) on the interpretation of offside around the breakdown!
As for the ongoing no.10 debate, it's absolutely fine for the paying and long suffering fans to voice there opinion of who they think should be playing, and we all have our favourites, but now that it has degenerated into personal attacks on Dan Parks' character it has gone way too far. |
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Loops
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| kev wrote: | | As for the ongoing no.10 debate, it's absolutely fine for the paying and long suffering fans to voice there opinion of who they think should be playing, and we all have our favourites, but now that it has degenerated into personal attacks on Dan Parks' character it has gone way too far. |
Hear, hear. |
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superl99
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| Oh please. The comment has been made on this forum previously, and not just by me. Dress it up however you want, but we all know that he doesn't put his body on the line or take any attacking risks for Scotland. I've admitted that he played well for Glasgow and at the end of the season was even being quite brave for them, so I don't think it's an attack on his character so much as his commitment for Scotland. As for hiding behind an anonymous username, I have previously had my face prominently on my avatar, and my current picture is my rugby team, so really I've not made any effort to hide my identity have I? |
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Baggage
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| superl99 wrote: | | Oh please. The comment has been made on this forum previously, and not just by me. |
doesn't make it right, regardless of who is making it |
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jamiet
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Super - you're going to be very suprised - but I totally agree with you!
Everybody has their own opinion and a forum is a great place to voice that opinion , for people to suggest you shouldn't say what you think is ludicrous ( on a totally different subject that is the way today's nambypamby let's not offend anybody scociety is going that's why all the yougsters have such respect for older people , because we are not allowed to tell them off incase they cry , kids aren't allowed to compete at sport incase the lose is upset ETC ETC!!).
To restore our natural balance - players in position and on form please!!! |
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Oldsalt
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superl99
possible use of the c word, easiest thing is to say sorry.
DP beat us fair and square by playing the type of game we would like to see him play in a Scotland shirt. Personally I think, along with the rest of the team, he is doing what he is instructed to by the coach.
Some of us from the west do have common sense and know what team to support. You should try Firhill sometimes the natives are quite friendly, the Biaritz and Saracens games were quite exciting. |
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superl99
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| Not quite sure what you're on about oldsalt. I freely admitted that he played well at the end of the season, but that he doesn't produce it for Scotland. My comment about Glasgow teams was referring Rangers and was facetious, see the winky face? I've been to Firhill a few times, what's your point? |
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