Edinburgh Rugby Supporters Club

[Loops]

Springboks thump sorry Argentina
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7551507.stm
South Africa 63 - Argentina 9

Come the autumn WE'RE DOOMED!!!

Kind of puts our summer tour results into perspective.
Any thoughts?

[djphilp]

Yeah and that was a stronger Argentina side than we faced too.

Once again the heid-yins at Murrayfield have been talking Frank and his team up and have been shown to be talking crud.

Undoubtably Scotland have some talented players but they are far from a top team yet and until we rid ourselves of the dead wood at Murrayfield we will never make that step up.

[jrp]

[Loops]

[djphilp]

[jamiet]

Good result in Argentina .

It is very naive to compare one team's result against another as a measuring stick of your own team's performance.

[djphilp]

Any win is currently classed as a "good result" for Scotland , but being realistic then professional players should beat amateurs every time. We didn't manage that in Argentina so I reserve the right to judge the tour as less of a success than many at the SRU would have us believe.

I do not think this view point is naive in fact I believe an opposing one would be far more naive.

[Derrick Lee's #1 Fan]

Until Argentina get their house in order domestically, I can see them going down the hill quite spectacularly. This result, coupled with our win in Buenos Aires, represents the beginning of that process in my opinion.
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[Crichton Gunner]

Dont forget that Italy also won in BA recently, so Argentina are on the slide at the moment.

But the fact that SA won so convincingly doesn't make any difference to our result in BA. It was a good performance and result. Why do people want to pour cold water on that? No one is saying we are as good as SA, or are even close to their level. There's only two teams in the world who can compete with them at the moment, and neither of them are European. But let's not find another excuse for beating up on ourselves, let's just celebrate the fact that we did win and play well. We won't start as favourites against SA in November, and no amount of coach-changing would make any difference to that fact.

[Oldsalt]

Look at the type of game Argentina tried to play - remind anyone of anything?

SA beat Argentina by moving the ball fast all over the park and by having a set of backs that believed in themselves, just as we did throughout the second test in BA.

The one dimensional game of keeping it tight with the forwards is too predictable and dare I say ponderous as we found out last 6 Nations and in the World Cup. Argentina were predictable in play and poor in execution and deserved to get thrashed.

If we revert to forward dominated play in the autumn we will get thrashed also.

[jimc]

I suspect thie Agies are pas ttheirn peak and the new laws may not favour thier tactics. Planet Rugby however seems to think they could never be expected to present a serious challenge:

"Villain of the Match: There was the usual petulant fists thrown from Bakkies Botha in the early exchanges, but nothing to warrant this ghastly gong. Instead we will rather give it to the moneymen who organised this match. Apart from giving Nelson Mandela a nice present this game was pointless. Argentina were in pre-season training and were never going to present a serious challenge for a match-fit Springbok side in the midst of the Tri-Nations."

[jrp]

[Oldsalt]

Argentina were not amatuers! We should have been slight favourites if you went on cap count. If I remember correctly we had about 360 caps taking the field and Argentina had 340 from what I could see.

Still no assistants for Mr Hadden for the AI's or is that the plan?

[djphilp]

[jrp]