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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby robdinsdale on Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:46 pm

ratty wrote:Bring back Jack Gilding I say..........



Kyle Traynor is available as well, I think. Now that was a front row.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:29 pm

Frenchy wrote:
The Feral Goat wrote:Carmichael is starting for the Force v Chiefs on Saturday.

Game is on Sky Sports 5 at 10:45am

Wasn't expecting that. Good for him.


Nice and easy start for him ... Only up against Brodie Retallick!

Also the Thistle Rugby Pod had Phil Godman on - yet another ex Edinburgh player who criticised the good old sign all journeyman policy and correctly noted that it contributed to the mess we are in.

He also stuck up for Hodge saying the Scotland players think he is a good coach and whilst I agree with Godman that Hodge was on a shot to nothing to make things worse is why he probably didn't get kept on as HC.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby disco on Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:06 am

The Feral Goat wrote:Carmichael is starting for the Force v Chiefs on Saturday.

Game is on Sky Sports 5 at 10:45am

Hmmm...So nearly 2 full seasons attached to Embra and 15 sub appearances. 5 minutes with the Force and he's finally getting a pro start - to take on Rettalick!
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby The Feral Goat on Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:24 am

Did wonder if he had actually started for ER. With the Force hammered with injuries and the Chiefs pretty much full strength suspect the result may be one he is used to with ER.


Western Force: 15 Dane Haylett-Petty, 14 Curtis Rona, 13 Marcel Brache, 12 Bill Meakes, 11 Luke Morahan, 10 Luke Burton, 9 Ian Prior, 8 Richard Hardwick, 7 Matt Hodgson (c), 6 Isi Naisarani, 5 Ross Haylett-Petty, 4 Lewis Carmichael, 3 Tetera Faulkner, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 1 Ben Daley
Replacements: 16 Heath Tessmann, 17 Francois Van Wyk, 18 Pek Cowan, 19 Onehunga Havilli, 20 Brynard Stander, 21 Mitch Short, 22 Jono Lance, 23 Alex Newsome

Chiefs: 15 Damian McKenzie, 14 Shaun Stevenson, 13 Sam McNicol, 12 Anton Lienert-Brown, 11 James Lowe, 10 Aaron Cruden (cc), 9 Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 8 Michael Leitch, 7 Sam Cane, 6 Liam Messam , 5 Brodie Retallick, 4 Dominic Bird, 3 Atu Moli, 2 Brayden Mitchell, 1 Siegfried Fisi’ihoi
Replacements: 16 Hika Elliot, 17 Aidan Ross, 18 Sosefo Kautai, 19 Taleni Seu, 20 Lachlan Boshier, 21 Finlay Christie, 22 Stephen Donald, 23 Toni Pulu
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:59 am

Cruden just stepped Carmichael at halfway and try Chiefs.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby The Feral Goat on Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:43 am

Stepped?! Classic NZ blocking involved from Retallick
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Tichtheid on Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:47 am

Friday Knight Lights wrote:Cruden just stepped Carmichael at halfway and try Chiefs.



Retallick ran a nice blocking line on Carmichael, then Cruden threw a forward pass

The Force's lineout has been shocking, otherwise Carmichael has had a good half, he made his tackles and has cleared out well.

I'd like to see him get a run ball in hand, he might surprise a few onlookers.


One other thing, when he stands near Retallick, Carmichael looks wee.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby doedin on Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:50 am

Certainly not looked out of place and the experience will be worth its weight in gold for him. He must be good money for claiming a starting slot next year? GC must be a worried man?
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:20 pm

Tichtheid wrote:
Friday Knight Lights wrote:Cruden just stepped Carmichael at halfway and try Chiefs.



Retallick ran a nice blocking line on Carmichael, then Cruden threw a forward pass

The Force's lineout has been shocking, otherwise Carmichael has had a good half, he made his tackles and has cleared out well.

I'd like to see him get a run ball in hand, he might surprise a few onlookers.


One other thing, when he stands near Retallick, Carmichael looks wee.


Brodie Retallick is 6'8 and 120kgs to be fair so makes everyone look wee - there's a reason he's called lurch!

I did see the block at half time - first time I saw it I presumed Cruden must've stepped him to get in all that space. Rennie loves the block from kicks though so Glasgow fans will see a lot of that next year.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:29 pm

doedin wrote:Certainly not looked out of place and the experience will be worth its weight in gold for him. He must be good money for claiming a starting slot next year? GC must be a worried man?


I'd be more worried if I was McKenzie and Toolis. I really don't think Gilchrist was re-signed to twiddle his fingers on the bench. Also, before Cockers was announced Gilchrist was apparently off so I do wonder if Cockers had a word with Johnson and Petrie to get him to extend his stay...

Carmichael played well against one of the best club sides in the world and ex player of the year, really begs the question why he couldn't get a look in here in our glorious pursuit of 8th place.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby djphilp on Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:04 pm

Friday Knight Lights wrote:Carmichael played well against one of the best club sides in the world and ex player of the year, really begs the question why he couldn't get a look in here in our glorious pursuit of 8th place.


Because our coaches haven't a AlainRolland clue :evil:
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:13 pm

djphilp wrote:
Friday Knight Lights wrote:Carmichael played well against one of the best club sides in the world and ex player of the year, really begs the question why he couldn't get a look in here in our glorious pursuit of 8th place.


Because our coaches haven't a AlainRolland clue :evil:


Indeed.

One thing about Carmichael I did notice was his clearing at the breakdown was not very good. The same with all our forwards to be honest. Watching Sarries and guys like George Kruis he's like a guided missile with a quick, brual cleanout. Our forwards are more powderpuff in their hit so try and roll the opposition off the ball which slows it all down. Yet more of Scott's excellent coaching and the SRU didn't get Gray signed up to help Scottish players and pro teams so now he is off to Montpellier.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Sonicboom on Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:39 pm

To be fair I don't think the problem has been at lock this season. Carmichael is a good young prospect but with Toolis, Gilchrist, Bresler and Mackenzie ahead of him he is realistically looking at picking us some appearances from the bench when there is injuries which is exactly what has happened.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Wottie on Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:19 pm

Tichtheid wrote:
Friday Knight Lights wrote:Cruden just stepped Carmichael at halfway and try Chiefs.



Retallick ran a nice blocking line on Carmichael, then Cruden threw a forward pass

The Force's lineout has been shocking, otherwise Carmichael has had a good half, he made his tackles and has cleared out well.

I'd like to see him get a run ball in hand, he might surprise a few onlookers.


One other thing, when he stands near Retallick, Carmichael looks wee.


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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:03 pm

Sonicboom wrote:To be fair I don't think the problem has been at lock this season. Carmichael is a good young prospect but with Toolis, Gilchrist, Bresler and Mackenzie ahead of him he is realistically looking at picking us some appearances from the bench when there is injuries which is exactly what has happened.


Toolis has played well but Bresler has been injured and McKenzie/Gilchrist a big bag of meh. I think we should have played Carmichael more.
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