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macdone wrote:Friday Knight Lights wrote:When's duPreez SQ? Presumably he'll wait until then to leave, if he's looking to go. I think Nasi Manu and Bradbury will offset his (potential) loss though. Very impressed with Bradbury in the 7s I watched yesterday. Nel is irreplaceable and why he commands such a high price. I don't think Ben Toolis will leave because he's not an established international yet which is the shop window for Scottish players looking for big salaries.
On Scott if he leaves I hope he goes to a team like Glaws. They play some pretty good rugby at points which will suit Scott's best attributes.
We should ideally be keeping Nel and recruiting another top class tighthead so we can keep pressure on teams for 80 minutes. If we can keep our current pack and add recruit just one player (at tighthead) i will be delighted. But if we don't tie Nel up by the 6 nations and he plays well against England he is gone.
Tichtheid wrote:Someone brought up a good point on another forum, presumably Solly wouldn't have extended his stay with Edinburgh without seeking some kind of assurances that these players' contracts will be extended? What would be the point of staying on if the one area of strength you have built is about to be disbanded?
Solly has also always spoken of Scott in the highest terms, he would expect him to stay on, surely?
Tichtheid wrote:Someone brought up a good point on another forum, presumably Solly wouldn't have extended his stay with Edinburgh without seeking some kind of assurances that these players' contracts will be extended? What would be the point of staying on if the one area of strength you have built is about to be disbanded?
Solly has also always spoken of Scott in the highest terms, he would expect him to stay on, surely?
Friday Knight Lights wrote:
A one year deal made me feel he'll be overseeing another transition period, neither side is committing a large chunk of their future to this deal. Either the SRU has someone lined up for 2017 and Solly is a stop gap or we want him to guide us through another large turnover of players in the summer and keeping him lessens the changes and therefore damage.
Rico wrote:Always need to keep in mind that some players might just want a change of scene (as we all do in our working lives sometimes), and will leave regardless of any money we might try and throw at the them and whatnot.
We definitely should try and persuade our key players (including Matt Scott) to stay but I don’t necessarily think we will have “failed” if some of them choose leave. That’s just life.
Look at DTH Van Der Merwe and Glasgow for instance. Doubt he’s on drastically better money in west Wales than in west Scotland, and he’s probably no more likely to win the Pro12/Champions Cup in his new home, but sometimes people aren’t solely motivated by money/titles.
Tichtheid wrote:Friday Knight Lights wrote:
A one year deal made me feel he'll be overseeing another transition period, neither side is committing a large chunk of their future to this deal. Either the SRU has someone lined up for 2017 and Solly is a stop gap or we want him to guide us through another large turnover of players in the summer and keeping him lessens the changes and therefore damage.
I was more thinking that at 65 years of age Solly probably doesn't want to commit to too long a contract, it won't be the climate that is keeping him in Edinburgh.
Oldsalt wrote:If AS thought that much of Matt Scott why the heck did he play him at 13? That and his injury has stalled Matt's improvement for two seasons. Hopefully Verne Cotter will get Matt at 12 and Alex Dunbar at 13 fit for the 6 Nations. As others have said it is not always about the money. None of us know quite what Matt thought playing outside Strauss. Watching Tim Visser on the Aviva highlights show proves that I think, he's grinning like a Cheshire cat as he should as the Aviva top scorer. Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself like Greig did with RM.
However as we have seen with NDL,Viss, Grieg and Dent's if you don't like it then you leave so nothing can be discounted.
Frenchy wrote:Oldsalt wrote:If AS thought that much of Matt Scott why the heck did he play him at 13? That and his injury has stalled Matt's improvement for two seasons. Hopefully Verne Cotter will get Matt at 12 and Alex Dunbar at 13 fit for the 6 Nations. As others have said it is not always about the money. None of us know quite what Matt thought playing outside Strauss. Watching Tim Visser on the Aviva highlights show proves that I think, he's grinning like a Cheshire cat as he should as the Aviva top scorer. Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself like Greig did with RM.
However as we have seen with NDL,Viss, Grieg and Dent's if you don't like it then you leave so nothing can be discounted.
Scott had been playing 13 long before Alan Solomons came on the go. He was also playing 12 in attack and 13 in defence. His injury has been the much larger issue than the number on his back.
zt1903 wrote:No he hadn't
Matt Scott never played 13 until ALAN SOLOMONS signed Andries Strauss which simultaneously moved one of our best players out of position and killed the creativity of our backline.
Frenchy wrote:In the 2012-2013 season, which is the season before Alan Solomons arrived, Matt Scott played twelve Pro12 matches for Edinburgh.
He played 12 five times, and 13 seven times.
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