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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby The Feral Goat on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:56 am

Bresler joined Worcester.

Thought he would be Cockerills sort of player, had very little match time this season but been very good for us in the past. Sorry to see him go wish him all the best.

Edit: Wonder if Solly is after anyone else
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby robdinsdale on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:00 am

Odd that Bresler hasn't fitted in this season. Always seems committed on the pitch, and is the classic enforcer lock really.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby joe soap on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:12 am

Frenchy wrote:Bresler leaves "by mutual agreement to pursue other opportunities".

Have also signed Jordan Lay, a Samoan international prop. Not sure if LH or TH.

Edit: loosehead. Here till end of season, coming from Bay of Plenty.


Lay and his bro were the Samoan LHs against Scotland in Nov. Can't remember which one started, wasn't particularly impressed by either
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby GaryIPA on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:15 am

Bresler never really did it for me but he did pit in a shift. So best wishes.

Lay seems a decent enough pick up for this time in the season. Looks to be in a position where he’ll work hard to try to get a contract somewhere.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby joe soap on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:18 am

The Feral Goat wrote:Bresler joined Worcester.

Thought he would be Cockerills sort of player, had very little match time this season but been very good for us in the past. Sorry to see him go wish him all the best.

Edit: Wonder if Solly is after anyone else


has clearly been behind Gilchrist, Toolis, McKenzie and Carmichael, hardly featured for a while. So Bresler move from a team on the up to one on the way down (or would be if LI were not even worse)

Suggests something other than on field and I'd guess his agent touted him to Solomons and others, Edinurgh happy to offload him now and free some budget for a prop or 2.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Wottie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:28 am

joe soap wrote:
The Feral Goat wrote:Bresler joined Worcester.

Thought he would be Cockerills sort of player, had very little match time this season but been very good for us in the past. Sorry to see him go wish him all the best.

Edit: Wonder if Solly is after anyone else


has clearly been behind Gilchrist, Toolis, McKenzie and Carmichael, hardly featured for a while. So Bresler move from a team on the up to one on the way down (or would be if LI were not even worse)

Suggests something other than on field and I'd guess his agent touted him to Solomons and others, Edinurgh happy to offload him now and free some budget for a prop or 2.


Looks spot on JS. The wording in the club's announcement "by mutual agreement to pursue other opportunities" tells you all you need to know. Looks like he hasn't made Cocker's good guy list and it works for all concerned for him to join Solly again at Worcester. Too early for the conspiracy theorists to read anything into this from an SRU / Worcester perspective, but if any more head south from ER or GW that might be a different ballgame. It's odd that the reports on that have all seemed to have gone quiet.

Good luck to him, I liked him as a player and I'm sure he will be a big help to Worcester in ensuring Premiership survival.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby GaryIPA on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:35 am

Seen something on fb one of the Worcester locks has gone off to pursue nfl
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby zt1903 on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:02 pm

Wottie wrote:
joe soap wrote:
The Feral Goat wrote:Bresler joined Worcester.

Thought he would be Cockerills sort of player, had very little match time this season but been very good for us in the past. Sorry to see him go wish him all the best.

Edit: Wonder if Solly is after anyone else


has clearly been behind Gilchrist, Toolis, McKenzie and Carmichael, hardly featured for a while. So Bresler move from a team on the up to one on the way down (or would be if LI were not even worse)

Suggests something other than on field and I'd guess his agent touted him to Solomons and others, Edinurgh happy to offload him now and free some budget for a prop or 2.


Looks spot on JS. The wording in the club's announcement "by mutual agreement to pursue other opportunities" tells you all you need to know. Looks like he hasn't made Cocker's good guy list and it works for all concerned for him to join Solly again at Worcester. Too early for the conspiracy theorists to read anything into this from an SRU / Worcester perspective, but if any more head south from ER or GW that might be a different ballgame. It's odd that the reports on that have all seemed to have gone quiet.

Good luck to him, I liked him as a player and I'm sure he will be a big help to Worcester in ensuring Premiership survival.


Well it certainly doesn’t do anything for Scotland. Bresler is SQ at the moment but will lose it as soon as he goes down south.

Only thing it does for us is free up some wage.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Wottie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:12 pm

zt1903 wrote:Well it certainly doesn’t do anything for Scotland. Bresler is SQ at the moment but will lose it as soon as he goes down south.

Only thing it does for us is free up some wage.


Is that how it works? I thought as long as you had done the requisite 3 year residency (soon to be 5) then you could be called up even if you have since moved to play in another country?
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Tichtheid on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:18 pm

To be honest Bressie was a long way off a cap, we had to lose two Grays, Swinson, Cummings, Gilcho, Toolis, Carmichael and probably Hunter-Hill and Fraz before Bresler would be getting the call

Best of luck to him, though, he deservedly won the Caulie Lug for his attitude on the park.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby gowrie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:21 pm

Pretty surprised by this, but I suppose it was clear that Cockerill didn't rate him too much. Timing's a bit awkward though, Gilchrist and Toolis could easily both be unavailable during the 6N, which will leave us with just McKenzie, Carmichael and Hunter-Hill.

I think it does mean that Bresler's no longer SQ, but IMO that doesn't mean much for Scotland. He might have picked up a couple of caps when there were injuries, but don't think he ever really would have challenged for the first choice 23.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby BigD163 on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:24 pm

Doeant bode well for our LH injuries if we are bringing another in.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby gowrie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:28 pm

BigD163 wrote:Doeant bode well for our LH injuries if we are bringing another in.


Probably (hopefully) too quick a turnaround for it to do with Sutherland, but doesn't leave you optimistic for Dell and Dickinson.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Tichtheid on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:29 pm

gowrie wrote:Pretty surprised by this, but I suppose it was clear that Cockerill didn't rate him too much. Timing's a bit awkward though, Gilchrist and Toolis could easily both be unavailable during the 6N, which will leave us with just McKenzie, Carmichael and Hunter-Hill.

I think it does mean that Bresler's no longer SQ, but IMO that doesn't mean much for Scotland. He might have picked up a couple of caps when there were injuries, but don't think he ever really would have challenged for the first choice 23.



Bill Mata can play in the second row, apparently
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2017/18

Postby Rico on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:42 pm

It was inevitable that some of those who were out of contract would move on, and Bresler was always lower down the priority list for re-signing. Wish him all the best though and could be a good move for both him and Wuss.

Worry will be that if Solomons is going to start poaching soon-to-be out of contract players, Du Preez could be next on his list.

As for Jordan Lay, don't know anything about him, but managing to pick up an international prop isn't a bad bit of business at all given that we're borderline crisis in terms of injuries.
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