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Wottie wrote:I wanted Myreside to work but I'm struggling to like it and it's really going to suck in the depth of winter. I don't see it as the answer long term if ER are to deliver on their business plan to get us to where the Weegies are at present. I would therefore prefer that they kept their powder and capital dry, use Murrayfield until the on-field stuff is sorted, and move to what must be the future and preferred long term solution of a small stadium on the back pitches sharing infrastructure and facilities with BT Murrayfield to realise cost efficiencies. Just my view for what it's worth. There is just too much wrong with Myreside.
The Feral Goat wrote:Got the email (copied below), it does indeed point to how do we make Myreside better. However, it is a survey about the 6 game trial at Myreside and without knowing where Myreside is failing and what fans want even if that is just to be back at Murrayfield then they cannot reasonably determine if they can deliver the required improvements to Myreside. Success or failure they need to go through the process of getting feedback on the trial period and venue etc.
For my 2p worth I actually think there is a future at Myreside, for me it much better meets the needs of where ER are now, but it does need investment in a number of areas which I don’t see being completed over a single closed season.
If there is some development done over the rest of this calendar year, a solid phased plan delivered for the longer term future by ER/GW, and given the mixed response to the move, I think the sensible thing would be to split the fixtures again next season between Murrayfield and Myreside get some development in and then January 2018 go back for another period and let people see and experience the improved facilities.
Alternatively fix the SteveWalsh on the pitch get a team playing for 80mins and maybe even winning the odd game and the infrastructure issues become a bit less important, get people talking about seeing good rugby rather than moaning about waiting to have a TonySpreadbury.
“Following our six-game trial move to Myreside, we want to hear what you think about the venue and what improvements you would make ahead of the new season.
Your feedback is vital as we look to significantly improve the matchday experience for everyone and generate the best possible atmosphere for Richard Cockerill and his team ahead of the new season.
As a thank you for completing this survey, we will select three Season Ticket Holders to to be among the first to receive the brand new 2017/18 playing jersey, hand delivered to you at the first game of the season, along with an exclusive Edinburgh goodie bag!
If you would like to be in with a chance of winning, please complete the survey below by noon on Friday 12 May.”
Wottie wrote:I just added the comment on my preference between Myreside v Murrayfield in the free text comment boxes Hil. That might be ignored against the backdrop of the question not being asked specifically, but I would encourage everyone to do likewise whichever of the two match day experiences they prefer.
Wottie wrote: preferred long term solution of a small stadium on the back pitches
All fair comment, and I agree to a large extent with what you say.
But I still think that there is a strong implication in the tone of the email and the content of the survey that the decision to stay is done and dusted. Just one question added along the lines of - given the choice would you prefer ER to be based at an improved Myreside or return to BT Murrayfield - would have helped. I know we can't tell what an improved Myreside might look like, but I know of people who are of the opinion that, with the best intent in the world, it won't be possible to improve Myreside sufficiently. And so they have a strong preference to return to Murrayfield (and some of those were strongly in favour of the Myreside move at the outset). To pick up on the sentence I've bolded in your quote - this survey does not answer the question of "what the fans want, even if that even if that is just to be back at Murrayfield" because that is never offered as an option, nor is any opinion sought on that choice.
The Feral Goat wrote:Got the email (copied below), it does indeed point to how do we make Myreside better. However, it is a survey about the 6 game trial at Myreside and without knowing where Myreside is failing and what fans want even if that is just to be back at Murrayfield then they cannot reasonably determine if they can deliver the required improvements to Myreside. Success or failure they need to go through the process of getting feedback on the trial period and venue etc.
For my 2p worth I actually think there is a future at Myreside, for me it much better meets the needs of where ER are now, but it does need investment in a number of areas which I don’t see being completed over a single closed season.
If there is some development done over the rest of this calendar year, a solid phased plan delivered for the longer term future by ER/GW, and given the mixed response to the move, I think the sensible thing would be to split the fixtures again next season between Murrayfield and Myreside get some development in and then January 2018 go back for another period and let people see and experience the improved facilities.
Alternatively fix the SteveWalsh on the pitch get a team playing for 80mins and maybe even winning the odd game and the infrastructure issues become a bit less important, get people talking about seeing good rugby rather than moaning about waiting to have a TonySpreadbury.
“Following our six-game trial move to Myreside, we want to hear what you think about the venue and what improvements you would make ahead of the new season.
Your feedback is vital as we look to significantly improve the matchday experience for everyone and generate the best possible atmosphere for Richard Cockerill and his team ahead of the new season.
As a thank you for completing this survey, we will select three Season Ticket Holders to to be among the first to receive the brand new 2017/18 playing jersey, hand delivered to you at the first game of the season, along with an exclusive Edinburgh goodie bag!
If you would like to be in with a chance of winning, please complete the survey below by noon on Friday 12 May.”
biffer wrote:Agree with a lot of this. Some things to be immediately sorted, some longer term development required.
Immediate
Sort the ladies loos
Sort disabled access and position
Supporters bar is jamesmatthew. It's frankly easier to do a function in a marquee than a bar (look at weddings) so some of the hospitality should be in there and the bar should be in the club house.
The rugby, obviously.
Longer term
Timescale depends if it's redevelop the current stadium piecewise or build a new one over the road before flattening the existing one (I've heard both suggested)
Regardless of above we need a big main stand including dressing rooms, function room big enough for hospitality and a good supporters bar.
Standing area - needs to be a along the side of the pitch, in front of a stand preferably (a la Munster, Ulster, Leicester, Northampton). If you have a poor atmosphere you need to find a way for those who make noise to congregate and those who don't like it able to move away. Terracing allows that, but if you do it at the end of a ground nobody wants to stand there as the view isn't as good. It's also great for mixing with travelling fans.
Hybrid pitch - make the distinction from the weeg. Doesn't have to be the same as MF, the kind Leicester put in is less expensive and nearly as good, widely used in pro rugby.
End stands need a better rake than the temp ones on them to improve the view
The rugby, obviously.
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