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Oldsalt wrote:If Edinburgh have any ambition, then if they achieve anything they will have to play at Murrayfield or somewhere else with at least double the capacity of Myreside. Can Myreside be expanded to suit a European quarter final/semi final crowd? If it can't then being at Myreside is a waste of time.
Friday Knight Lights wrote:Oldsalt wrote:If Edinburgh have any ambition, then if they achieve anything they will have to play at Murrayfield or somewhere else with at least double the capacity of Myreside. Can Myreside be expanded to suit a European quarter final/semi final crowd? If it can't then being at Myreside is a waste of time.
This is my main issue, if Edinburgh start competing at the business end of the table fixtures will be moved back to Murrayfield to accommodate bigger crowds.
Oldsalt wrote:If Edinburgh have any ambition, then if they achieve anything they will have to play at Murrayfield or somewhere else with at least double the capacity of Myreside. Can Myreside be expanded to suit a European quarter final/semi final crowd? If it can't then being at Myreside is a waste of time.
mmacdone wrote:Firstly, they need to let supporters into the main bar in the clubhouse. That would transform pre and post match. The castle is dreadful - a worse facility than most Division 7 clubs have.
macdone wrote:Firstly, they need to let supporters into the main bar in the clubhouse. That would transform pre and post match. The castle is dreadful - a worse facility than most Division 7 clubs have.
davidsandilands wrote:From the defensive nature of JP on question about why not a ground on Murrayfield back pitches they simply don't have the money and I doubt unless someone has died and left them money the GWC have any. If either did we would already know. GWC have won regardless their stadium has been upgraded for free.
There's always going to be a hard core support who love the amateur rugby style stadiums but saying Murrayfield was a luxury or comfort ignores the fact we are competing for fans, not just in rugby but for people who attend sport in general and family days out. In truth as it now stands Edinburgh rugby is a very poor offering compared with alternative options for sport in Scotland. Take how the hospitality is run for example, regularly people were left locked out of the car park despite arriving at the right time and struggling to make the kick off on time due to speed of service. Are the business supporters really going to continue paying the same they paid for Murrayfield at Myreside? (I suspect a lot of them will look elsewhere once a move is confirmed)
The lack of transparency and haphazard nature in the way Edinburgh runs hurts it the most. Getting rid of our coach after 4 games (with no succession plan at all) and a sudden decision for a stadium change, taking place half way into a season with no way of justifying why they made the choice, having just aborted an Easter road experiment, it is all farcical.
Results obviously matter in sport but its not the only factor, we are the worst supported team in the pro 12 outside of the Italians, yet would you say Cardiff have had much more fun than us and it didn't make much of a difference when we won 8 out of 11 home league games last year.
biffer wrote:Chris wrote:To me, there's a fairly simple equation. There are three factors to getting a decent support:
(1) A good matchday experience - i.e. travel, beer, atmosphere, seating etc.
(2) Attractive rugby to watch
(3) Our team winning consistently: not every game, but the majority. The kind of feel that you get at Munster, Leicester, Toulon etc.: that your ground is a fortress, and that losing is unusual.
Get two out of three right, and you're going to attract decent crowds. Get less than that, your support will fall away given time. At the moment, we're not really succeeding on any of those three bases, whereas over the past 12 years or so at Murrayfield we tended to have an acceptable matchday experience (apart from the atmosphere) if nothing else. So, I'll put up with:
1. A good matchday experience, and good rugby to watch, even if we lose (2/3).
2. A good matchday experience, and winning ugly (2/3).
3. A rubbish matchday experience, but we play great rugby and win (2/3).
4. A great matchday experience, we play wonderful rugby, and we win (3/3).
That's just not true. There's one factor to getting big crowds.
Winning.
That's it, no more complicated. Everything else is just fluff.
disco wrote:In a similar vein Scotland have always managed to sell out Six Nations games (barring Italy) even during periods when the national side was pretty dreadful and Autumn Test attendances plummeted. Which maybe suggests there's still an appetite among rugby fans for an event and a 'guid day oot' even when the result might be almost a foregone conclusion.
joe soap wrote:[
what builds support is winning. What gets a team wining is a combination of many things; so is what makes them perennial losers. Playing in your own ground, not the national stadium should be a no brainer
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