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macdone wrote:Jamie Dobie not in the Glasgow matchday squad again. Coming to the DAM, learning under Mike Blair makes too much sense To me. I'm still flogging that horse.
Tichtheid wrote:Mesu Kunavula has signed a contract extension. The report states that he joins Bill Mata in committing his long-term future to the club.
The Feral Goat wrote:Tichtheid wrote:Mesu Kunavula has signed a contract extension. The report states that he joins Bill Mata in committing his long-term future to the club.
Only 26 as well hopefully he stays injury free and gets some more game time.
Where did you see the Mata comment, i have not seen it was wondering if it has been removed as spoiled a big announcement.
Lawrie acknowledged other clubs are looking at Bradbury, will be interesting to see if we retain him or not.
The back-row recently returned from a knee injury sustained during last November’s Autumn International against Spain and joins fellow Fijian star Viliame Mata in committing his long-term future to the club.
robdinsdale wrote:
The Mata comment is on the club website:The back-row recently returned from a knee injury sustained during last November’s Autumn International against Spain and joins fellow Fijian star Viliame Mata in committing his long-term future to the club.
I reckon Bradbury will be away if we have plenty of other options with our Fijians and Muncaster coming through.
Friday Knight Lights wrote:Signed Fraser Armstrong on loan to cover Nel's six nations involvement and De Bruin's injury.
Angus Williams isn't up to much and neither is Atalifo.
But there's no way the SRU should've sanctioned this. At some point we need to play Scottish players at front row or you end up with Javan Sebastian an injury away from playing in the six nations.
Friday Knight Lights wrote:Signed Fraser Armstrong on loan to cover Nel's six nations involvement and De Bruin's injury.
Angus Williams isn't up to much and neither is Atalifo.
But there's no way the SRU should've sanctioned this. At some point we need to play Scottish players at front row or you end up with Javan Sebastian an injury away from playing in the six nations.
JDCSR wrote:Friday Knight Lights wrote:Signed Fraser Armstrong on loan to cover Nel's six nations involvement and De Bruin's injury.
Angus Williams isn't up to much and neither is Atalifo.
But there's no way the SRU should've sanctioned this. At some point we need to play Scottish players at front row or you end up with Javan Sebastian an injury away from playing in the six nations.
First of all it's Bristol's Jake Armstrong who has joined o loan not Fraser Armstrong of the Highlanders.
Secondly Euan McLaren has also joined up from the Super 6.
Seems a reasonable balance of getting a young Scottish player and a more seasoned pro in.
BigD163 wrote:Has McLaren played since the S6? To throw him in v Leinster and Munster would be a massive ask.
dolf_lundgren wrote:I agree it is a fine line and hard to get right. Would we be happier to not have Venter & DeBriun but be sitting 4/5th? Where do we draw the line.
I think prop is getting to the point where something has to be done, we are too reliant on imports. At a quick look Glasgow have 3 "home grown" props, 2 play regularly and 1 in the academy. We have none in the senior squad and 3 in the academy.
We obviusly have the likes of Sutherland, Hislop, McCallum & Rae all playing in England (sure there will be more) so we can produce some.
Dan Gamble going on loan is the right thing and I dont think we are doing enough of that. I know we are limited in what we can do with London Scottish, but I dont think it would be that hard to commit to sending 5 players a season down to them, and making sure a coupleo f them are props. Its still not fully time rugby, but it is a decent standard and will gve them the hardening they need. So when we do need them vs Leinster at least they are not completely raw.
Friday Knight Lights wrote:dolf_lundgren wrote:I agree it is a fine line and hard to get right. Would we be happier to not have Venter & DeBriun but be sitting 4/5th? Where do we draw the line.
I think prop is getting to the point where something has to be done, we are too reliant on imports. At a quick look Glasgow have 3 "home grown" props, 2 play regularly and 1 in the academy. We have none in the senior squad and 3 in the academy.
We obviusly have the likes of Sutherland, Hislop, McCallum & Rae all playing in England (sure there will be more) so we can produce some.
Dan Gamble going on loan is the right thing and I dont think we are doing enough of that. I know we are limited in what we can do with London Scottish, but I dont think it would be that hard to commit to sending 5 players a season down to them, and making sure a coupleo f them are props. Its still not fully time rugby, but it is a decent standard and will gve them the hardening they need. So when we do need them vs Leinster at least they are not completely raw.
I agree that is the position the SRU have got themselves into where Edinburgh are going to drop down the league if they actually play Scottish players. Imagine that - a pro team whose primary job is to develop players for the national team avoiding playing those players because it's a detriment to the team. What a sad state of affairs.
What should have happened was Cockerill was told no, McCallum is getting a new deal. No we aren't signing Ceccerelli, no we aren't singing Atalifo. And Blair should be told no, we aren't signing Armstrong - you have McLaren. And Glasgow are told - no Pieretto is actually pretty jamesmatthew we're not replacing him with another Pieretto, we're playing Murphy Walker. Glasgow however have 6 full time SQ props to our 1 so aren't really the problem.
And yes it will be short term pain. But Scotland the national team are heading down a dangerous path if we're relying on South Africa and England developing our players. There's 3 south African born props in the squad compared to two Scottish born. We've got to the point where it's inconceivable we have professional rugby in Scotland without South African props both for the pro clubs and national team. That's not a healthy position. The strategy currently is and in my opinion absolutely cannot be project players. Again, this is nothing to do with the individuals - I like them all individually and have no qualms with them representing Scotland. But if signing South Africans to quality if the national strategy for developing props for Scotland that is rotten and in my opinion a recipe for disaster.
I agree about Gamble. If the super six isn't good enough - and the fact McLaren who was good is being looked over - proves that is the thinking today (might be good in a few years) then find another way. I personally think the SRU should start paying English clubs to play young props. It is good Gamble has gone on loan. Glasgow should send Walker and Lambert down.
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