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robdinsdale wrote:Where will the extra game against Glasgow be played? I wonder if they will test the waters in Aberdeen etc.?
robdinsdale wrote:Where will the extra game against Glasgow be played? I wonder if they will test the waters in Aberdeen etc.?
biffer wrote:robdinsdale wrote:Where will the extra game against Glasgow be played? I wonder if they will test the waters in Aberdeen etc.?
If Glasgow and Edinburgh are in different divisions, they'd normally only play once. The extra game is so that we get one in Edinburgh and one in Glasgow. We're not talking about a third game.
Crichton Gunner wrote:I was initially quite sceptical about this, but the more I think about it the more I think it's a decent idea. The main thing is that the standard of the league is good, and this does offer the potential to improve it. And does it really make much difference if we're playing a team from Italy, Ireland or SA? I'm unlikely to go to an away match in any of these places, so the fact that SA is a long way away is actually fairly irrelevant to me (and most supporters). As for the conference concept, again what matters to me is that I see good games when I go to watch Edinburgh. If it can produce a higher quality of game, with a decent play-off and finale to the competition, then the pro's will outweigh the cons, and I'm sure I'll get used to the new format, whatever that is. No need to add that a doubling (or even a significant increase) in revenues would be very welcome to the union's/clubs.
Crichton Gunner wrote:I was initially quite sceptical about this, but the more I think about it the more I think it's a decent idea. The main thing is that the standard of the league is good, and this does offer the potential to improve it. And does it really make much difference if we're playing a team from Italy, Ireland or SA? I'm unlikely to go to an away match in any of these places, so the fact that SA is a long way away is actually fairly irrelevant to me (and most supporters). As for the conference concept, again what matters to me is that I see good games when I go to watch Edinburgh. If it can produce a higher quality of game, with a decent play-off and finale to the competition, then the pro's will outweigh the cons, and I'm sure I'll get used to the new format, whatever that is. No need to add that a doubling (or even a significant increase) in revenues would be very welcome to the union's/clubs.
The Feral Goat wrote:biffer wrote:robdinsdale wrote:Where will the extra game against Glasgow be played? I wonder if they will test the waters in Aberdeen etc.?
If Glasgow and Edinburgh are in different divisions, they'd normally only play once. The extra game is so that we get one in Edinburgh and one in Glasgow. We're not talking about a third game.
Per this article it is a third Edinburgh v glasgow game. I assume to keep the number of games up and so the Irish and Welsh can have their derbies. myreside, scotstoun and keep murrayfield at Xmas as "neutral" venue although perhaps the opportunity to take the game north or south of central belt should not be overlooked, plus Glasgow contingent would prob not be overly happy at two games in Edinburgh
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40464201
The Feral Goat wrote:biffer wrote:robdinsdale wrote:Where will the extra game against Glasgow be played? I wonder if they will test the waters in Aberdeen etc.?
If Glasgow and Edinburgh are in different divisions, they'd normally only play once. The extra game is so that we get one in Edinburgh and one in Glasgow. We're not talking about a third game.
Per this article it is a third Edinburgh v glasgow game. I assume to keep the number of games up and so the Irish and Welsh can have their derbies. myreside, scotstoun and keep murrayfield at Xmas as "neutral" venue although perhaps the opportunity to take the game north or south of central belt should not be overlooked, plus Glasgow contingent would prob not be overly happy at two games in Edinburgh
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40464201
joe soap wrote:biffer wrote:
16 teams, two conferences of 8, gives 22 games (play teams in same conflict home and away, other conference once).
I was responding to BigD's suggestion of a 16 team league NON conference set up. Flawed, but at least he seems to recognise what a nonsense a conference system is
joe soap wrote:Travel is not irrelevant to the players or teams, far from it, and not just the significant cost.
The extra TV money being sought would be offset by extra travel costs, fewer games equals few hospitality packages etc etc. The economics are far from obvious to me
Friday Knight Lights wrote:You'll have 6 home conference games, 4 non conference home games (4 with 1 vs Glasgow and 2 games at their place or 3 with 2 home fixtures against Glasgow) so 10 in total down from 11 (I think)..
joe soap wrote:Friday Knight Lights wrote:You'll have 6 home conference games, 4 non conference home games (4 with 1 vs Glasgow and 2 games at their place or 3 with 2 home fixtures against Glasgow) so 10 in total down from 11 (I think)..
6 home conf games plus 3 or 4 alternate seasons non conf games. So 9 or 10 home games. Now that is 1 or 2 less hospitality opportunity. Plus fewer match ticket sales, match day merchandise, food and drink sales, match day program ad sales: plus will sponsors pay the same for fewer days exposure, will SKY pay the same for fewer matches (and they are already retrenching).
Of course we don't know the answer to some of these which is why I said the economics are not clear.
The length of flights to SA, probably not direct, means awful travel for one game or expensive charters.
There are so many issues, all feels a bit rushed
Frenchy wrote:I think in at least one of the big American sports each team has a game each season against the team in the same position in the other conference. This would be a relatively fair way of adding one round of fixtures.
If my description didn't make sense, I think it works like this:
Conference 1:
1 Team A
2 Team B
3 Team C
4 Team D
Conference 2:
1 Team E
2 Team F
3 Team G
4 Team H
Would lead to the round of fixtures:
A v E
B v F
C v G
D v H
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