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The Feral Goat wrote:Need to remember Ritchie, Crosbie and Miller are only 24, Bradbury 25 it is not like Darge, Boyle and Muncaster were losing out to 30ish year olds it is guys 3-4 years older than them that they need to be competing with.
Edinburgh backrow is tough to break into, what is good to see is the likes of Muncaster and Boyle playing well (and Darge at Glasgow) when given a chance. Perhaps this season training and S&C full time with ER squad rather than playing Super6 may be of benefit going into next season and beyond.
Tichtheid wrote:The Feral Goat wrote:Need to remember Ritchie, Crosbie and Miller are only 24, Bradbury 25 it is not like Darge, Boyle and Muncaster were losing out to 30ish year olds it is guys 3-4 years older than them that they need to be competing with.
Edinburgh backrow is tough to break into, what is good to see is the likes of Muncaster and Boyle playing well (and Darge at Glasgow) when given a chance. Perhaps this season training and S&C full time with ER squad rather than playing Super6 may be of benefit going into next season and beyond.
Good point.
In fact I'm pretty happy about the age profiles of the pack, in the second row Sykes has looked very good, along with Hodgson. Davidson is away isn't he?
Harrison definitely looks the part, he's a very exciting young hooker.
We still have the problem of props, or lack of them
The Feral Goat wrote:Need to remember Ritchie, Crosbie and Miller are only 24, Bradbury 25 it is not like Darge, Boyle and Muncaster were losing out to 30ish year olds it is guys 3-4 years older than them that they need to be competing with.
Edinburgh backrow is tough to break into, what is good to see is the likes of Muncaster and Boyle playing well (and Darge at Glasgow) when given a chance. Perhaps this season training and S&C full time with ER squad rather than playing Super6 may be of benefit going into next season and beyond.
BigD163 wrote:I don't believe this Edinburgh squad has been put together efficiently. I think (hope) I made the point before that resource management is the issue. There continues to be far more greater sums of money invested in the forwards than the backs, which will always be the case but I would bet the discrepancy is greater than elsewhere in the league.
BigD163 wrote:The Feral Goat wrote:Need to remember Ritchie, Crosbie and Miller are only 24, Bradbury 25 it is not like Darge, Boyle and Muncaster were losing out to 30ish year olds it is guys 3-4 years older than them that they need to be competing with.
Edinburgh backrow is tough to break into, what is good to see is the likes of Muncaster and Boyle playing well (and Darge at Glasgow) when given a chance. Perhaps this season training and S&C full time with ER squad rather than playing Super6 may be of benefit going into next season and beyond.
My point has never once been critical of the players though other than say Darge has put in performances at least on a par with Crosbie and Bradbury this year.
I don't believe this Edinburgh squad has been put together efficiently. I think (hope) I made the point before that resource management is the issue. There continues to be far more greater sums of money invested in the forwards than the backs, which will always be the case but I would bet the discrepancy is greater than elsewhere in the league.
When we have Kunavula, Bradbury and Crosbie who can play 6, was Haining a priority resigning? Could that money have been better spent elsewhere? There is no reason to treat Muncaster and Boyle as a 3rd tier in the squad, with coaching and game time there is no reason at all they couldn't be pushing the back ups to JR/HW/BM.
Edit: IIRC there was a rumour there will be 3 less league games next year so it is more likely there will be fewer international clashes with Proxx fixtures.
The Feral Goat wrote:the balance is changing a bit now as likes of Berghan moves to Glasgow and we bring in Lang.
The Feral Goat wrote:
Think our biggest issue is not the squad make up but how the game plan they are sent out with.
“But those 14 or 15 guys with the national team have just taken up two thirds of your budget. The hardest bit is making the last third work to put a competitive team on the pitch for 10-12 games of the season.
“If two big players come out of contract at the same time, one would often have to take a hit and inherit the other’s contract. John Barclay leaves and probably Jamie Ritchie takes his contract. It’s having a firm idea of what that succession planning looks like. How do you fill the spots? That’s the tough thing. Look at, say, Jack Blain. He could eventually replace Blair Kinghorn who might stay two more years. Even Blair now is being paid, probably, market value.”
Friday Knight Lights wrote:Lang might be cheaper than expected I think. If he's Quins second choice 12 without EQP value and called up by Scotland a few months of the year how valuable is he.
The Incredible Shug wrote:A nice way to spin you handing us your castoffs...
The Incredible Shug wrote:They're all second-string players!
The Incredible Shug wrote:Townsend didn't want Bennett (who's done well despite a string of injuries),
The Incredible Shug wrote:Pyrgos was being phased out for Price,
The Incredible Shug wrote:Bhatti was playing for Ayr most of his final season,
The Incredible Shug wrote:Weir had a horrific injury.
The Incredible Shug wrote:They may be "experienced Pro14 players and internationals", but so were Phil Godman and Simon Danielli.
The Incredible Shug wrote:It's a distortion of the truth to fill a Weegie narrative.
The Incredible Shug wrote:You've just signed and releases massive swathes of players.
The Incredible Shug wrote:Half your exciting new youngsters are from overseas anyway!
The Incredible Shug wrote:The second we got some decent recruitment - for the first time in a bloody blue moon - the Glasgow fanbase was pure foamin with allegations of favouritism.
The Incredible Shug wrote:Yet you feel that getting great young prospects is the rough end of the deal???? Nack off wae that nonsense.
The Incredible Shug wrote:Darge playing well for you isn't a miracle you should pat your backs for, it's barely been a month he's been there.
The Incredible Shug wrote:Instead point your finger at Edinburgh's coaches, a matter the fans have no say in.
The Incredible Shug wrote:THEY could pick these exciting players, and we want them to. But they don't. It's foolish to tie that to club identity,
The Incredible Shug wrote:not that you'll care so long as you can jab at Edinburgh with a pompous tone like that.
disco wrote:macdone wrote:I thought Darge was motm against Leinster, he's outstanding. Ross Thompson is another Edinburgh player we should have kept. R McLean too. If we're sending players along the M8 we should be asking for the same back - it's 7 of their current squad and Berghan about to join them this summer. I'd take Dobie for starters.
The deal is, broadly speaking, that you send us unproven kids and players who can barely get a game and we turn them into Scotland players; in return, we send you experienced PRO14 players and internationals and you completely waste them.
macdone wrote:disco wrote:macdone wrote:I thought Darge was motm against Leinster, he's outstanding. Ross Thompson is another Edinburgh player we should have kept. R McLean too. If we're sending players along the M8 we should be asking for the same back - it's 7 of their current squad and Berghan about to join them this summer. I'd take Dobie for starters.
The deal is, broadly speaking, that you send us unproven kids and players who can barely get a game and we turn them into Scotland players; in return, we send you experienced PRO14 players and internationals and you completely waste them.
I'm not blaming Glasgow, it's up to ourselves. I'd have kept Darge over Bradbury and Crosbie. I'd take McLean over Blain personally and Ross Thompson over Chamberlain but that's a matter of opinion!
But I do think Jamie Dobie should come and play here. He's number 3 for Glasgow but would quickly become number 1 here.
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