V Leicester 31/3/23

[bigparahandy]

Match column. Enjoy

https://theburghwatch.substack.com/p/le ... 1323?sd=pf

[Trophyhunter]

Good point on Crosbie , Possibly forecast of rain influencing selection of Pyrgos .11 of this team were horses by Connacht last week ! A few reputations at stake here and clearly some are getting a bit thin .

[The Feral Goat]

I agree on Crosbie as well, do wonder if the head knocks are weighing on Watsons mind he is just that bit off from where he was.

I think we will see a much different performance schoe for Motm after monumental carry stats and turning dank hole inside out at scrum time.

[biffer]

Right, we're on the 1100 to Newark, in Leicester by about half four.

Check in to the hotel, then a few hostelries and the ABC bar behind the terracing at least an hour before kickoff.

Let's get it right round them. They're already talking about the result of the Leinster v Ulster game and ignoring our last result in this competition was beating Saracens.

[The Feral Goat]

FFS we are getting nothing here, nel toasted the LH

[The Feral Goat]

Execution again, yes conditions not great but we have blown a few point scoring opportunities.

Defence miles better than connacht match a big plus but discipline (however questionable some.of the pens) was not great first 25, and then control of the ball poor as well.

Need vdm to come looking for the ball not looking like getting passed to the wings so should be coming in for it

[The Feral Goat]

How is that not yc, could not be any more cynical

[The Feral Goat]

We do a fair amount of ok stuff but make it so easy for opposition with the errors and pens just hand the games away, all our good play ended in turnover of some sort.

For all we have, on paper a good squad, we lack players that know how to win and on recent evidence have any confidence or basic ability

[liveinhope]

Not worth posting about last night's debacle-season over!
for the players with no Euro or URC play off matches. We are in the strange position that at the end of March just two "dead rubber" URC matches to play for (and if the players can't get up for the previous two fixtures can't see that changing for the final two with nothing in them.
So,a long break for the players us missing out on URC play offs and Euro QFs.Obviously a fair number will be involved over the summer in the RWC training squad (with a lesser number in the final 33).Does anyone know what the likely schedules are for next season in the (pro) club game ie when the URC will start/does it stop during the RWC? With the RWC starting on 8th September that could leave a huge gap if say (as I think happened before) there are no club games until the RWC QF stage (mid October).
Worried that for Edinburgh,at least,there are effectively no games of any remote significance for about six months! Quite an impact both on players and club income surely.
Anyway interesting if anyone has an inside rack on when the league season might get underway.

[liveinhope]

Not worth posting about last night's debacle-season over!
for the players with no Euro or URC play off matches. We are in the strange position that at the end of March just two "dead rubber" URC matches to play for (and if the players can't get up for the previous two fixtures can't see that changing for the final two with nothing in them.
So,a long break for the players us missing out on URC play offs and Euro QFs.Obviously a fair number will be involved over the summer in the RWC training squad (with a lesser number in the final 33).Does anyone know what the likely schedules are for next season in the (pro) club game ie when the URC will start/does it stop during the RWC? With the RWC starting on 8th September that could leave a huge gap if say (as I think happened before) there are no club games until the RWC QF stage (mid October).
Worried that for Edinburgh,at least,there are effectively no games of any remote significance for about six months! Quite an impact both on players and club income surely.
Anyway interesting if anyone has an inside rack on when the league season might get underway.

[doedin]

Not worth posting about last night's debacle-season over!
for the players with no Euro or URC play off matches. We are in the strange position that at the end of March just two "dead rubber" URC matches to play for (and if the players can't get up for the previous two fixtures can't see that changing for the final two with nothing in them.
So,a long break for the players us missing out on URC play offs and Euro QFs.Obviously a fair number will be involved over the summer in the RWC training squad (with a lesser number in the final 33).Does anyone know what the likely schedules are for next season in the (pro) club game ie when the URC will start/does it stop during the RWC? With the RWC starting on 8th September that could leave a huge gap if say (as I think happened before) there are no club games until the RWC QF stage (mid October).
Worried that for Edinburgh,at least,there are effectively no games of any remote significance for about six months! Quite an impact both on players and club income surely.
Anyway interesting if anyone has an inside rack on when the league season might get underway.

I dont think this is a bad thing! This season has been awful and hopefully a break will give a new coach time to work with the squad and develop a different mentality and spend long hours on the training paddock.

[Trophyhunter]

Leicester game was not a debacle . Edinburgh defended better than they had for most of this season . Conditions were awful and this had an impact on handling .Cheap lineout losses apart of course. . This is a game that was in the balance for the first 70 . Thought Crosbie might have been better coming on for Ritchie who has had a very tough run of games this year , this might have presented a fresh threat to Leicester in the carry with Watson in tandem. It was not a night for slick, wide passes to Graham and VDM who could have been served better with more smart kick and chase perhaps.

Edinburgh need a fix over the summer akin to Glasgow’s early to mid season transformation with the same squad that had so miserably failed to deliver last season . They had a lot of guys on the summer tour to Argentina, some less deserving than others imo , but how Edinburgh manage their Non World cup travellers will be key to this squad realising its “ on paper “ potential in 23/24.

[liveinhope]

Whilst I won't debate with you our respective views on whether or not Friday night was a "debacle" I'd certainly agree with you about Watson.Thought that was the old Hamish-his best game for Edinburgh /Scotand since pre 2021 Lions tour.His replacement,Crosbie was terrific but as you say Watson might have had more left in the tank than Ritchie so perhaps better he had gone off for Crosbie.
Ah the benefit of hindsight! (oh and on that theme after seeing some of the other weekend matches such a pity we did not get the chance to show our skills in better light in the improved weather of Saturday and Sunday).As you say a cold wet Friday was certainly not a night to show off Graham and VDM's attacking skills.