Glasgow v Edinburgh - 22 Aug 1715KO

[Tichtheid]

Leinster have picked a side that, frankly, should not lose at home, not even to a strong Munster, only Furlong is injured as far as I can see.

I hope the Dubs can do us a favour, but we need a couple of wins from these two games to get us up and running.

[robdinsdale]

However, I liked what I saw of, err, Sau,

Going forward ball in hand, he's fine. Pre lockdown, still a huge amount to learn defensively and particularly lost under the high ball. Hopefully some intensive coaching has been going on.

Perhaps a run at fullback for Glasgow would help . . . . .

He does look poor under the high ball... not helped this season when we have a set move of lofting a kick to the right wing when our attack runs out of steam.

[dolf_lundgren]

Hmm, interesting selections, not helped by injuries. It feels wrong that after a 5 month layoff we come back with a list that long. Toolis is understandable, Darcy is a concern as he was supposed to he raring to go.

Dean ahead of Taylor and Sutherland ahead of Schoe are the main talking points. Although there may be a degree of rotation too.

Glasgow going without an openside is interesting and we will see how that plays out, shame Ritchie isn't available but I love the way Crosbie plays, he has the potential to be the best of the lot.

[biffer]

However, I liked what I saw of, err, Sau,

Going forward ball in hand, he's fine. Pre lockdown, still a huge amount to learn defensively and particularly lost under the high ball. Hopefully some intensive coaching has been going on.

Perhaps a run at fullback for Glasgow would help . . . . .

He does look poor under the high ball... not helped this season when we have a set move of lofting a kick to the right wing when our attack runs out of steam.

The thing about him defensively is that he lives up to the reputation of loving a tackle. So I think hell be keen to learn to improve his positioning so that he can make more of them.

[joe soap]

The thing about him defensively is that he lives up to the reputation of loving a tackle. So I think hell be keen to learn to improve his positioning so that he can make more of them.

correct on first bit. Not sure you have the chicken and egg the right way round on the second bit. He is 30 now, hasn't learned, his positioning is often poor in large part because he is keen on a big hit. Sells himself too easily

[The Nudger]

Hmm, interesting selections, not helped by injuries. It feels wrong that after a 5 month layoff we come back with a list that long. Toolis is understandable, Darcy is a concern as he was supposed to he raring to go.

Dean ahead of Taylor and Sutherland ahead of Schoe are the main talking points. Although there may be a degree of rotation too.

Glasgow going without an openside is interesting and we will see how that plays out, shame Ritchie isn't available but I love the way Crosbie plays, he has the potential to be the best of the lot.

The frustration as always is no information on the injuries. I was really looking forward to some D'Arcy action too, could be a stubbed toe, could be a broken leg, Ive never understood our refusal to give injury details!

Agree that Crosbie is fantastic, better than anyone at Glasgow IMHO but I don't think he'll ever be better than Ritchie. Which is solely a reflection of just how good I think JR is!

[The Feral Goat]

The thing about him defensively is that he lives up to the reputation of loving a tackle. So I think hell be keen to learn to improve his positioning so that he can make more of them.

correct on first bit. Not sure you have the chicken and egg the right way round on the second bit. He is 30 now, hasn't learned, his positioning is often poor in large part because he is keen on a big hit. Sells himself too easily

Suspect he will be one of the first to welcome huw Jones to life as a full back taking high balls.

[joe soap]

The thing about him defensively is that he lives up to the reputation of loving a tackle. So I think hell be keen to learn to improve his positioning so that he can make more of them.

correct on first bit. Not sure you have the chicken and egg the right way round on the second bit. He is 30 now, hasn't learned, his positioning is often poor in large part because he is keen on a big hit. Sells himself too easily

Suspect he will be one of the first to welcome huw Jones to life as a full back taking high balls.

fine as long as he times it right and hits low. I'd worry about his timing. Duhan and Kinghorn can challenge for the ball in the air, that's the obvious tactic

[Tichtheid]

Hmm, interesting selections, not helped by injuries. It feels wrong that after a 5 month layoff we come back with a list that long. Toolis is understandable, Darcy is a concern as he was supposed to he raring to go.

Dean ahead of Taylor and Sutherland ahead of Schoe are the main talking points. Although there may be a degree of rotation too.

Glasgow going without an openside is interesting and we will see how that plays out, shame Ritchie isn't available but I love the way Crosbie plays, he has the potential to be the best of the lot.

The frustration as always is no information on the injuries. I was really looking forward to some D'Arcy action too, could be a stubbed toe, could be a broken leg, Ive never understood our refusal to give injury details!

Agree that Crosbie is fantastic, better than anyone at Glasgow IMHO but I don't think he'll ever be better than Ritchie. Which is solely a reflection of just how good I think JR is!

My thinking is that Ritchie and Crosbie are different but very complimentary players, Jamie is the pain in the KelvinDeaker you never like playing against, he will disrupt everything you do, he will make you spill the ball, slow down your possession, grab you by the lapels and generally be in your face, he will tackle and carry till he drops.
Luke will punch great big holes in the opposition defence and will surprise many backs for pace.

They have crossover skills, but as a pairing they will be terrific, a fit and firing Bradbury gives us a top class young backrow trio, I'm less worried about losing Big Bill and Mish* now, especially since we have Haining, Darge and Boyle as well.

* - obviously my preference would be that Watson and Mata stay with Edinburgh, but the reality is that there will be chequebooks enquiring after them and we need players to move on to facilitate the maturing of the next generation.

[New Gunner]

[quote="Tichtheid"][quote="The Nudger"][quote="dolf_lundgren"]Hmm, interesting selections, not helped by injuries. It feels wrong that after a 5 month layoff we come back with a list that long. Toolis is understandable, Darcy is a concern as he was supposed to he raring to go.

Dean ahead of Taylor and Sutherland ahead of Schoe are the main talking points. Although there may be a degree of rotation too.

Glasgow going without an openside is interesting and we will see how that plays out, shame Ritchie isn't available but I love the way Crosbie plays, he has the potential to be the best of the lot.[/quote]

The frustration as always is no information on the injuries. I was really looking forward to some D'Arcy action too, could be a stubbed toe, could be a broken leg, Ive never understood our refusal to give injury details!

Agree that Crosbie is fantastic, better than anyone at Glasgow IMHO but I don't think he'll ever be better than Ritchie. Which is solely a reflection of just how good I think JR is![/quote]


My thinking is that Ritchie and Crosbie are different but very complimentary players, Jamie is the pain in the KelvinDeaker you never like playing against, he will disrupt everything you do, he will make you spill the ball, slow down your possession, grab you by the lapels and generally be in your face, he will tackle and carry till he drops.
Luke will punch great big holes in the opposition defence and will surprise many backs for pace.

They have crossover skills, but as a pairing they will be terrific, a fit and firing Bradbury gives us a top class young backrow trio, I'm less worried about losing Big Bill and Mish* now, especially since we have Haining, Darge and Boyle as well.

* - obviously my preference would be that Watson and Mata stay with Edinburgh, but the reality is that there will be chequebooks enquiring after them and we need players to move on to facilitate the maturing of the next generation.[/quote]

Here’s my bold prediction - Mish will stay at Edinburgh for his whole career.

[joe soap]

My thinking is that Ritchie and Crosbie are different but very complimentary players, Jamie is the pain in the KelvinDeaker you never like playing against, he will disrupt everything you do, he will make you spill the ball, slow down your possession, grab you by the lapels and generally be in your face, he will tackle and carry till he drops.
Luke will punch great big holes in the opposition defence and will surprise many backs for pace.

got to go with that. There isn't a need to draw a comparison as they perform such different roles with different skill sets, give the side a huge lift in different ways but I guess its inevitable some will do just that. Lucky to have them both

[joe soap]

Here’s my bold prediction - Mish will stay at Edinburgh for his whole career.

could well be. To be a really desirable "buy" as an openside, obviously you need real top drawer talent. I think he has that although I don't think he is a Pocock, Hooper or even a Tiperic or Curry among current top players. But if he is, and I accept other opinions will be available form fanboys the other thing he would need to be is available during 6N and AIs.

Hogg and Russell are "star quality" and box office, so sort of are the exceptions to that rule. As is Jonny Gray an exception, but TBH I don't understand Exeter's thoughts on signing him when he won't be available - except that Baxter has had a fixation on him for a few years.

the big money on offer is usually either for those box office game changers, and among those are the big carriers, so Crosbie, Bradbury and Mata much more likely to be sought out - leaving Edinburgh more cash and more reason to retain Watson, the other reason you could well be correct that he will stay his whole career.

[The Feral Goat]

Rustiness from both sides (and officials).

Usual question has the ball been through hands to duhan yet, don't think so.

Fairly certain ball.went back off Kinghorn so should not have been pen prior to Glasgow try. Anyway

[liveinhope]

Is it just me or does this referee contrive to ruin every game he officiates?
(Not just the pass to VDM which looked absolutely flat!)

[biffer]

I’ll take that though.

Now come on Leinster!




I feel dirty for saying that.