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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:25 pm

gowrie wrote:Embarrassing way to lose, penalty after penalty. Couldn't control any possession or territory because of the total lack of discipline.


Gilchrist's effort at the rucks were embarrassing.

Cost us the match. Just roll away you galoot.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Wottie on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:26 pm

Seriously naive rugby. That should have been an unassailable lead. All we needed to do was kick the corners and play e game in their half. Instead we let ourselves be subject to the lottery that is the breakdown with missed neck rolls and penalties all over the place. Cockers will be going through them like a dose of salts right now.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Fanscene on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:29 pm

This turned on a change in interpretation of the breakdown.
They were able to lie all over the ball, but when we did, it was 2 seconds and penalty.
Also.... Why an Irish ref? not saying that was key but interesting selection!
Finally, I noticed in the last two weeks, the new interpretation has been a lot looser! Moving back to the laws pre CoVid, might just be me, but interpretation of this has wained.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:29 pm

Wottie wrote:Seriously naive rugby. That should have been an unassailable lead. All we needed to do was kick the corners and play e game in their half. Instead we let ourselves be subject to the lottery that is the breakdown with missed neck rolls and penalties all over the place. Cockers will be going through them like a dose of salts right now.


He should be going at Hodge more. We won't win knockout games unless the attack is significantly improved.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:31 pm

Fanscene wrote:This turned on a change in interpretation of the breakdown.
They were able to lie all over the ball, but when we did, it was 2 seconds and penalty.
Also.... Why an Irish ref? not saying that was key but interesting selection!
Finally, I noticed in the last two weeks, the new interpretation has been a lot looser! Moving back to the laws pre CoVid, might just be me, but interpretation of this has wained.


Murphy was fine other than the neck rolls on Graham at the breakdown. I didn't think Ulster were lying on it. Gilchrist definitely was. 150 Edinburgh games a Scotland cap and to give Ulster penalty after penalty. Absolutely jamesmatthew from him.
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Re: Ulster Semi

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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby joe soap on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:33 pm

Friday Knight Lights wrote:
Wottie wrote:Seriously naive rugby. That should have been an unassailable lead. All we needed to do was kick the corners and play e game in their half. Instead we let ourselves be subject to the lottery that is the breakdown with missed neck rolls and penalties all over the place. Cockers will be going through them like a dose of salts right now.


He should be going at Hodge more. We won't win knockout games unless the attack is significantly improved.


Hodge doesn't recruit the players, or pick the team. Was lost in the top 2 inches in pack that switched off or wasn't fit enough. Buck stops at the top
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby joe soap on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:36 pm

Wottie wrote:Seriously naive rugby. That should have been an unassailable lead. All we needed to do was kick the corners and play e game in their half. Instead we let ourselves be subject to the lottery that is the breakdown with missed neck rolls and penalties all over the place. Cockers will be going through them like a dose of salts right now.


wouldn't say unassailable but otherwise , this. Cockers need to look at himself, his selection (a couple did not look up to pace at all) and when subs made. He also had plenty of chances to get messages on the field to change things up
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby gowrie on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:37 pm

Friday Knight Lights wrote:
Wottie wrote:Seriously naive rugby. That should have been an unassailable lead. All we needed to do was kick the corners and play e game in their half. Instead we let ourselves be subject to the lottery that is the breakdown with missed neck rolls and penalties all over the place. Cockers will be going through them like a dose of salts right now.


He should be going at Hodge more. We won't win knockout games unless the attack is significantly improved.


The attack today was nothing special, but it got us a 12 point lead, which should have been enough. The problem was the pack then handing Ulster amazing field position whenever they wanted it in the last 20.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Fanscene on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:39 pm

I may be bit annoyed and moaning, I just felt quite a few times we competed fairly then Murphy was about to penalise Ulster they managed to get the ball, forgetting that the new interpretation is hands on then if no instant release penalty.

Also I thought Kinghorn was taken out quite blatantly fielding a kick in the last few minutes just inside our ten, the tackler was in no place to complete and shoulder barged him on way down.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby dolf_lundgren on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:39 pm

Friday Knight Lights wrote:
Fanscene wrote:This turned on a change in interpretation of the breakdown.
They were able to lie all over the ball, but when we did, it was 2 seconds and penalty.
Also.... Why an Irish ref? not saying that was key but interesting selection!
Finally, I noticed in the last two weeks, the new interpretation has been a lot looser! Moving back to the laws pre CoVid, might just be me, but interpretation of this has wained.


Murphy was fine other than the neck rolls on Graham at the breakdown. I didn't think Ulster were lying on it. Gilchrist definitely was. 150 Edinburgh games a Scotland cap and to give Ulster penalty after penalty. Absolutely jamesmatthew from him.



To be fair, you make a tackle and a 20st prop pins you down, what can you do?
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:40 pm

joe soap wrote:
Friday Knight Lights wrote:
Wottie wrote:Seriously naive rugby. That should have been an unassailable lead. All we needed to do was kick the corners and play e game in their half. Instead we let ourselves be subject to the lottery that is the breakdown with missed neck rolls and penalties all over the place. Cockers will be going through them like a dose of salts right now.


He should be going at Hodge more. We won't win knockout games unless the attack is significantly improved.


Hodge doesn't recruit the players, or pick the team. Was lost in the top 2 inches in pack that switched off or wasn't fit enough. Buck stops at the top


Agree and I don't think Cockers is going to win us the Pro14 with such tactics. At some point you need to play fast rugby attacking the line. Edinburgh's attack is far too slow.

But on Hodge the backs passing and decision making is poor. Dean wins us the game is he has the composure and sense to look at Bennett the end of the first half. On Dean his kick gave Ulster their second try. But why was Dean a converted centre passed the ball on our line? Because 150 cap man Gilchrist threw a pass. No! Take the ball up, set up a ruck and gave Groom or VdW kick.

Seriously annoyed at Gilchrist. Awful awful awful second half from a man who should so so much better.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby Friday Knight Lights on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:41 pm

dolf_lundgren wrote:
Friday Knight Lights wrote:
Fanscene wrote:This turned on a change in interpretation of the breakdown.
They were able to lie all over the ball, but when we did, it was 2 seconds and penalty.
Also.... Why an Irish ref? not saying that was key but interesting selection!
Finally, I noticed in the last two weeks, the new interpretation has been a lot looser! Moving back to the laws pre CoVid, might just be me, but interpretation of this has wained.


Murphy was fine other than the neck rolls on Graham at the breakdown. I didn't think Ulster were lying on it. Gilchrist definitely was. 150 Edinburgh games a Scotland cap and to give Ulster penalty after penalty. Absolutely jamesmatthew from him.



To be fair, you make a tackle and a 20st prop pins you down, what can you do?


On the first one potentially on the killer one in our 22 there was no prop and no effort. Squirm, roll, at least look like you're trying FFS it's a semi final.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby sammy on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:44 pm

Thought the penalty against Watson near the end was harsh, yes he was off his feet in the end, but was on the ball and Ulster holding on was the cause. Maybe one-eyed, but ridiculous that an Irish ref was given that game, it's not a good look.

At the end of the day we through it away, Kinghorn at times looked a bit tentative in his kicks, but kick and kick and boring rugby was the order of the day when two scores in front. Good game for the neutral, but winning was all that mattered to me today.
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Re: Ulster Semi

Postby The Feral Goat on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:46 pm

Can point out all the little incidents, but we should have won it irrespective.

Not good enough again, too many poor individual moments from a leading position. It is some mental affliction we cant overcome for some reason.

We will hopefully have a chance in Europe to put things right but pretty TonySpreadbury off with that second 40.
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