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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby BigD163 on Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:54 am

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gowrie wrote:Telegraph reporting that Sam Skinner has already agreed a deal to join us next season.

Excellent signing if true, he and Gilchrist have definitely not looked out of place for Scotland this year. We have a few locks already though, and two great young players, which makes me wonder who we might be losing. Gilchrist? Having a good year and might be looking for a big final contract. Toolis? Been out injured for a long time unfortunately.


A good signing if he's available but probably bad strategy for the SRU. I am expecting Hodgson and Sykes to be fairly well established by the end of this season and this would mean that we potentially have 5 of the available Scottish international locks (plus Glen Young who presumably has international aspirations). Glasgow have Cummings, Harley, who is not an international lock, and Richie Gray who seems to have retired from international rugby?


We are carrying 6 second rows now, and have had to use a back row already this year IIRC.

Toolis is 30 before the end of the season and GG is 32 before the start of next season. Both are OOC I think. If we lose one of those (as we probably should) then we still have 6 which is the minimum required really.

Glasgow have went non SQ for their second row signing but it isn't clear when Skinner was made available. He is a lad local to Exeter so may have been giving them every chance to find a way to make a deal.

The Feral Goat wrote:Skinner is a good player but difficult one to assess if he is "needed" given Sykes and Hodgsons rise, unless we are losing established 2nds in one or both of Gilchrist or Toolis.

Toolis has not played in over a year(?) i think and he does not appear on any of the injury updates with expected return but just on the "unavailable due to injury" hope he is not heading same way as Fraser McKenzie.

Also given no timelines have been given on contract lenghts for last few seasons we have no idea who is out of contract or not this season.

Mata could have signed for only another year and be off, Chamberlain is getting zero game time and may look to move on so could be looking for a 10 again. Is McInally likely to be out of contract cant recall his last renewal, Bradbury?


Gilchrist was reported to be OOC in 2022. Bradbury and Toolis extended in Jan 2020 so may be OOC.

Second rows are expensive, it is the highest paid position group in Europe. The SRU having potentially 3 internationals OOC at their clubs looking for new deals (and the money that comes with it) is tough for them. Given their performances as a pair in some big international wins, Skinner and GG would be one of the best pairings around in the URC. The one big thing that Skinner has that most in the squad don't is that he is a winner. He has won leagues and cups and started in some big games. At 26/27 he fits the type of profile we should be looking at. The only reason Exeter is letting him go is due to the slashed salary cap.

Chamberlain appears to be 4th choice 10. Not sure we'd spend a great deal replacing him.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby The Feral Goat on Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:59 pm

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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby Tichtheid on Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:32 pm

The Feral Goat wrote:Hodgson and Sykes both re-sign

https://www.edinburghrugby.org/the-club ... up-derbies



Good news, they've both been terrific
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby dolf_lundgren on Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:05 pm

Toolis confirmed as heading to Japan in the summer. Which explains Skinner coming in.

Been a very good and consistent player for us, making a huge improvement from when he joined as a very raw rugby player. Still easily the best line out player in Scotland. Something which has been missed by Scotland and Edinburgh in recent months. Very powerful scrummaging second row too, again only missed when he is not there.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby robdinsdale on Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:13 pm

dolf_lundgren wrote:Toolis confirmed as heading to Japan in the summer. Which explains Skinner coming in.

Been a very good and consistent player for us, making a huge improvement from when he joined as a very raw rugby player. Still easily the best line out player in Scotland. Something which has been missed by Scotland and Edinburgh in recent months. Very powerful scrummaging second row too, again only missed when he is not there.


He's been a great servant to the club over the years and seems like a good guy. I don't begrudge him what will presumably be a decent pay packet and lifestyle/experience in Japan.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby BigD163 on Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:33 pm

Good move all round. He'll do well, get paid well andnthe club look set to bring in a quality replacement who is younger and international ambitions.

Good work by all parties.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby Tichtheid on Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:42 pm

Best of luck to him, he's been really good for Edinburgh.

It was supposed to be Alex who was going to be the Scotland international etc, but Ben did really well.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby The Feral Goat on Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:41 pm

Sounds like a good move and hope he gets free of injury and a run out this season before he goes.

Been a really good club player, one of our best set piece locks, lineout in particular always feels secure when he was playing and he could go after oppositions as well.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby joe soap on Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:03 pm

The Feral Goat wrote:Sounds like a good move and hope he gets free of injury and a run out this season before he goes.

Been a really good club player, one of our best set piece locks, lineout in particular always feels secure when he was playing and he could go after oppositions as well.


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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby Pitfitter446 on Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:02 pm

He is/will be missed.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby Trophyhunter on Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:36 pm

Top Top player and when in the mood hugely skilful and dynamic athlete. . .Skinner for all his quality has big shoes to fill but great to see him signed up.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby The Nudger on Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:20 am

Really gutted to see Ben go, think he's been great for us!
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby Tichtheid on Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:29 pm

Skinner confirmed for next season on Embra twitter feed

edit, oh and it's a three year contract according to Exeter sources.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby The Feral Goat on Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:16 pm

Tichtheid wrote:Skinner confirmed for next season on Embra twitter feed

edit, oh and it's a three year contract according to Exeter sources.


Quality signing and at 26 should be about his prime.

Will be interesting to see how Blair shapes the rest of the squad.
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Re: Edinburgh Rugby Squad 2021-22

Postby Crichton Gunner on Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:47 pm

Pleasing. Sorry to see Ben Toolis go, but replacing him with Skinner is a good bit of business by Edinburgh.
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