The Player will be free to play from midnight on December 13, 2020
George Taylor won't be.
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The Player will be free to play from midnight on December 13, 2020
TheSmidge wrote:Five week ban, reduced from ten:
https://www.pro14.rugby/latest/discipli ... T0XVEZatGo
TheSmidge wrote:BigD163 wrote:TheSmidge wrote:Objectively speaking, as much as I possibly can, I can't see how this is a mid-level entry point given the serious outcome for George Taylor.
If this is a 6-weeks-down-to-3-weeks sanction because he ordered the panel a nice packet of M&S biscuits each through Ocado (seeing as you can't take the biscuits to the meeting any more) then I will be disappointed, although not surprised.
It was a horrendous tackle with a horrible outcome, so should be dealt with severely, but I'm not holding my breath.
As much as I may not like it, I can't see that the resulting injury can be taken into account. If his face hadn't been broken it is still equally as bad a tackle, should reckless play get less of a ban because the victims bones are slightly stronger or was hit a few cm in the face differently? I don't believe so.
The tackle was very poor (being generous) and he has led with the head and it should be judged on the tackle rather than the resultant injury. For me the tackle regardless of injury or lack of an injury should be dealt with harshly.
I understand the viewpoint that Taylors injury should mean a lengthier ban but even allowing for no injury I still see that as needing a 10+ week ban after deductions.
I'm certain that there have been disciplinary decisions in the past that have taken outcome to the tackled player into account. While it is not part of World Rugby's decision framework so cannot be part of the on-field process, it is explicitly one of the factors to be taken into account by the disciplinary panels, as can be found in Regulation 17.19.2(h):the effect of the Player’s actions on the victim (for example, extent of injury, removal of victim Player from the game)
The full regulation can be found here: https://www.world.rugby/handbook/regula ... -17/reg-17
However, we will have to wait on the disciplinary panel, which should be before the next round of fixtures, i.e. today or tomorrow.
Croft_No.6 wrote:Considering his attitude on the night (and those of other Scarlets Players to Taylor at the time) there was little contrition shown. I wonder if he has aopologised to ER and Taylor since
The Feral Goat wrote:Croft_No.6 wrote:Considering his attitude on the night (and those of other Scarlets Players to Taylor at the time) there was little contrition shown. I wonder if he has aopologised to ER and Taylor since
"Scarlets accepted the verdict, adding: "We have spoken to Josh at length about the incident and he fully accepts he got his tackle technique wrong and the coaches are working with him on that.
"We would also like to make it clear that after the match Josh went into the medical room to check on George and to apologise.
"We have also spoken to Edinburgh about putting Josh in touch with George once he recovers."
Tichtheid wrote:The Feral Goat wrote:Croft_No.6 wrote:Considering his attitude on the night (and those of other Scarlets Players to Taylor at the time) there was little contrition shown. I wonder if he has aopologised to ER and Taylor since
"Scarlets accepted the verdict, adding: "We have spoken to Josh at length about the incident and he fully accepts he got his tackle technique wrong and the coaches are working with him on that.
"We would also like to make it clear that after the match Josh went into the medical room to check on George and to apologise.
"We have also spoken to Edinburgh about putting Josh in touch with George once he recovers."
Excuse my cynical interpretation, but that just means he was told to do that by Scarlets staff so as the get the best possible outcome at the disciplinary hearing.
dolf_lundgren wrote:Haven’t seen those cards, but he obvious fix is players learning to tackle lower. It is the only acceptable change.
It would look horrendous if rugby now backed off punishing high shots.
KenMavor wrote:Just watching the All Blacks versus Australia game and 35 minutes in two players already sent off for high tackles. By the law pretty sure both were red cards although one looked far worse than the other. Also felt, rightly or wrongly, that the ref, with the first red card made a rod for his own back and the second red, for Australia, had to be a red as well. Something needs to get fixed otherwise the game will descend into a farce.
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